In this Spotlight Podcast, we speak with David Brumley, the Chief Executive Officer at the security firm ForAllSecure* and a professor of Computer Science at Carnegie Mellon University. Brumley is a noted expert on the use of machine learning and automation to cyber security problems. In this podcast, we talk about the growing demand for security automation tools and how the chronic cyber security talent shortage in North America and elsewhere is driving investment in automation. Every so often, a technology comes along that seems to perfectly capture the zeitgeist: representing all that is both promising and troubling about the future. In the 1960s, you think of plastic, which was a pillar of a massively expanding consumer culture in the United States that put "convenience" above all else.